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Creation of the Language / The Lab / Re: Grammar and Syntax Megathread
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on: December 19, 2016, 02:31:38 pm
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Do we want to have gendered nouns/adjectives?
Maybe some kind of noun classes that aren't tied to gender? That seems a good idea Based on the words we have so far, I think the three options should be "-is" nominatives, "-ez" nominatives, and "-in" nominatives How should those decline, then? Tbh, imo, "-is" and "-ez" are far too similar sounding to really support different sets of inflections over a longer period. What you could have though is the nominative ending's grade of voicing influencing case inflections, so, idk, have a nominative in "-ez" turn the genitive (?) ending "-x" into "-g" or "-r" or whatever we would agree upon as a voiced equivalent to "x" (since the obvious option "ɣ" doesn't exist here). Good idea. Perhaps the third ending could be "-ar" or "-ad"?
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Creation of the Language / The Lab / Re: Basic Pronunciation
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on: December 19, 2016, 02:30:25 pm
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Phonological inventory looks fine to me, don't you think though that all three of /b v w/ might be a bit much? Very few languages other than English have all three, and if our language is spoken, I'd assume most dialects would simplify to two or even just one forms ( just /β/ and /w/ for example).
Secondly, for the romanisation, why not take "x" for the sh-sound and "c" (or "ch") for the ch-sound? X for sh is common in many natural languages (Catalan, some South American Indian languages...), while I have never seen c for sh, tbh.
I actually think the "C" as sh and "TC" as ch makes sense... I also like having a letter for the hard h sound. But I agree that dialects would prove one of b, v, and w unnecessary. Which do y'all want to cut?
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Off-Topic / Off-Topic / Re: Introduction thread
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on: December 19, 2016, 11:30:52 am
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Stuff still going on here, people?
Name: Cranberry Location: The deep dark valleys of the Eastern Alps Interests: Politics (duh), languages (duh), mathematics, overall typically nerdy stuff Languages I speak: German, English, Italian, Tyrolean dialect, basics of Spanish and Icelandic Pet peeve: anything Iceland (or any cold, remote island in the polar regions basically, but still Ísland best í heimi) Birthday: 4 June
We'll, were not super active right now, but over winter break it should pick up again. I'll go over your comments when I get home, by the way
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Creation of the Language / The Lab / Re: Grammar and Syntax Megathread
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on: December 18, 2016, 12:58:23 pm
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Do we want to have gendered nouns/adjectives?
Maybe some kind of noun classes that aren't tied to gender? That seems a good idea Based on the words we have so far, I think the three options should be "-is" nominatives, "-ez" nominatives, and "-in" nominatives How should those decline, then?
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Creation of the Language / Learn the Language / Re: Grammar Handbook
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on: December 17, 2016, 07:09:51 pm
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Chapter 2: Cases in Nouns
The Cases
Nominative: The subject of a sentence
I walked the dog Fish have eyes
Oblique: The object
I walked the dog You have seen many stars
Genitive: Indicating possession
James' dogs are healthy After seeing the basketball game, I went to all of Orlando's finest tourist attractions
Instrumental: More abstract, often indicating preposition use
I told a story in Terris I was born near a house
Chapter 2.1: Case Endings
Singular: Nominative: [basic form] Oblique: -al Genitive: -ux Instrumental: -an
Plural: Nominative: -(e)r Oblique: -(e)rol Genitive -(e)rux Instrumental: -(e)ron
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Creation of the Language / Learn the Language / Re: Grammar Handbook
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on: December 17, 2016, 07:02:46 pm
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Chapter 1: Pronouns
1st person sing ("I"): Jo 2nd person sing ("you"): De 3rd Person Sing: Ed ("he") Ea ("she") Et ("they"/agender pronoun) 3rd person sing (inanimate): El ("it")
1st person plur ("we"): Ilor 2nd person plur ("y'all"): Delor 3rd person plur: personal: Eor ("they" - for people) inanimate: Elor ("they" - for objects)
These will prove important with verbs later
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About / About This Forum / Re: Viva Transparency! Moderation Log
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on: December 17, 2016, 08:50:31 am
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December 17, 2016
-Standardized the star system with membergroups
1 Yellow: "Newbie/Junior Contributor" 0-50 2 Yellow: "Contributor" 50-100 3 Yellow: "Member" 100-250 4 Yellow: "Notable Member" 250-500 5 Yellow: "Top Member" 500+
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Creation of the Language / The Lab / Re: Grammar and Syntax Megathread
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on: December 17, 2016, 07:11:37 am
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Sorry for double-posting, but this is really a separate thought.
I don't want to exactly replicate English's case system, but I'd accept it with a little tweaking. Like maybe throw in a fourth case, say, instrumental, to unite constructions like "in Terris" tarnuunan, "by road", "with jam" sogooan, "smiled upon by the stars" hodjeron (note metaphor), etc.
This is actually a great idea. So "-n" in the singular and "-(e)rn" or "-(e)ron" in the plural?
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Creation of the Language / The Lab / Re: A name for the language and other vocabulary.
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on: December 16, 2016, 03:03:49 pm
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My proposal
0. nue 1. aym 2. wal 3. con 4. vlare 5. gol 6. fwocp 7. yav 8. meqod 9. mirj 10. oj 11. jaym 12. jwal 13. jecon 14. jovlare 15. jegol 16. jefwocp 17. jyav 18. jemeqod 19. jemirj 20. walla 21. waym 22. walawal etc.
30. cone 40. vlaras 50. golla 60. fwoce 70. yavin 80. meqaca 90. mirija 100. ayid 1000. mixa 1000000. mixain
what do you think
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Creation of the Language / The Lab / Re: A name for the language and other vocabulary.
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on: December 15, 2016, 11:04:01 pm
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Random ideas for cardinal numbers:
1. aym 2. wal 3. con 4. vlare 5. gol 6. fwocp 7. yav 8. meqod 9. mirj 10. oj
What kind of number system do we want?
Roman numerals are not great but something similar I meant, base-10, base-12, base-14? Also, how irregular should the number words be? E.g. Mandarin has very regular numbers--11 is ten-one, 17 is ten-seven, 34 is three-ten-four, etc. English is less regular, and French is even less regular than English. Lol. Base ten is fine. I thing regular numbers with contractions is fine
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Creation of the Language / The Lab / Re: Phonotactics!
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on: December 15, 2016, 08:01:52 pm
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ah! also we should allow w/y + any consonant in the coda
So like "isle" and "owl" in English? I like that. I don't think that's a good idea. I would support stuff like wide and down in English though. Oh I just assumed what I said was what evergreen meant... which is it?
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