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Creation of the Language / The Lab / Creating sentences etc
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on: December 16, 2016, 01:37:42 pm
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When I get time, I'll get myself caught up on all that's going on and try a few sentences.
Perhaps we can create a short story to practice the language. I think that is a long way off at this time however.
Once we get the basics down we can communicate with each other in the language.
I may not become real active for a while. When I have time I might.
I will at least try to keep my eye on what's going on, with the hope of helping out a little, sometime in the coming year.
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Creation of the Language / The Lab / Re: A name for the language and other vocabulary.
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on: December 12, 2016, 11:51:43 am
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Another idea have a suffix for opposites? This would cut the number of words substantially. Hot & Cold. Young & Old. etc I don't know if it's a good idea, but it could simplify things and make it easier to learn the language more quickly.
Or a prefix nonhot=cold nonold=young or unhot instead of nonhot etc etc Then there would be halfhot for lukewarm. Maybe zerohot for cold? zero-old or little-old for young.
Has this been tried in any Conlangs before?
If you are speaking another language to someone who doesn't at the same time speak English, you can't say "How do you say 'cold'"? Because that person wouldn't know the meaning of "cold". But, if you remember the word for hot, you could say "what is the opposite of hot?". My point is, that maybe the idea of simplifying the language with adding an "opposite of" suffix may be unnecessary and therefore a bad idea. I have a tendency, perhaps an irritating one, of "thinking out loud".
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Creation of the Language / The Lab / Re: A name for the language and other vocabulary.
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on: December 12, 2016, 11:47:55 am
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Another idea have a suffix for opposites? This would cut the number of words substantially. Hot & Cold. Young & Old. etc I don't know if it's a good idea, but it could simplify things and make it easier to learn the language more quickly.
Or a prefix nonhot=cold nonold=young or unhot instead of nonhot etc etc Then there would be halfhot for lukewarm. Maybe zerohot for cold? zero-old or little-old for young.
Has this been tried in any Conlangs before?
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Creation of the Language / The Lab / Re: A name for the language and other vocabulary.
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on: December 12, 2016, 09:12:08 am
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Here are some critical words for our vocabulary: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Most_common_words_in_EnglishThey need to be put into alphabetical order. If nobody else does this, I will make a point of putting them in order when I get a chance, if you think that that would be useful. Perhaps I could also come up with a few random words in Terris and someone could decide which English words to equate them with. As an example the Terris word "sogo" means... ____? edit: I propose "sogo" = "jelly". I'd appreciate if you could do that I do like sogo as jelly, actually I adding jelly making 101 words. I am putting it in three posts rather than one, because of the length.
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Off-Topic / Off-Topic / Re: Introduction thread
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on: December 12, 2016, 08:10:07 am
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It seems that we are a multilingual group so far. Languages spoken here, Terris, English, Spanish, French, German, Arabic & Japanese. Not bad.
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Creation of the Language / The Lab / Re: A name for the language and other vocabulary.
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on: December 12, 2016, 07:44:21 am
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Soon we will be able to make sentences. We have the word for "mother". To say "My mother is nice" we need three more words. Certainly the verb "to be" is one of the most important verbs. "My" will be easy to create since we have the word for "I". Maybe add a suffix to "ilor". "Ilorka"?
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Creation of the Language / The Lab / Re: Basic Pronunciation
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on: December 12, 2016, 07:38:39 am
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Perhaps we could use Q without the following U for all loan words beginning with the K sound (including C words that start with the K sound). Unless a loanword starts cu or ku in which case we could use the K. So "Coal" would be "Qoal" and "King" would be "Qing" (just an example, since we could have Terris words for "coal" and "King").
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Off-Topic / Off-Topic / Re: Introduction thread
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on: December 10, 2016, 06:43:42 pm
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Hi Tom! Consider this my first post here.
Name: L.D. Smith Location: Alameda Co., CA, USA Interests: Politics, writing, video games Religion: LDS (duh!) Languages I speak: English fluently, German at preschool level, and a few words here and there from Spanish, Italian, Russian, Icelandic, Japanese, and Gaelic. Pet peeve: French Birthday: January 13
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Creation of the Language / The Lab / Re: Basic Pronunciation
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on: December 10, 2016, 01:52:55 pm
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I would prefer either Spanish or English pronunciation for aeiou. This would at least the vowels simple. Spanish vowels have one sound. English letters aeio could be simplified to the names of those four letters. u could be like the oo in "moon". Whatever you decide, one sound for each vowel, would be my preference. As for consonants that is a little more complicated, although most of them would be similar to English, of course.
So something like a - b ody e - s end i - w eek o - dr one u - m oon ai - l ime ei/é - s ame oi - t oilet yes(sa).. perfect (edit: I am logging out. I have many things to do. I may return tonight or tomorrow. This is a nice place. Thanks for creating it.)
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Creation of the Language / The Lab / Re: Basic Pronunciation
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on: December 10, 2016, 01:44:44 pm
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I would prefer either Spanish or English pronunciation for aeiou. This would at least the vowels simple. Spanish vowels have one sound. English letters aeio could be simplified to the names of those four letters. u could be like the oo in "moon". Whatever you decide, one sound for each vowel, would be my preference. As for consonants that is a little more complicated, although most of them would be similar to English, of course.
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Creation of the Language / The Lab / Re: Pronouns
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on: December 10, 2016, 01:18:39 pm
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Here's a draft 1st person sing: Ilo (? - Don't really like this one) 2nd person sing: De 3rd Person Sing: Ed Ea Et 3rd person sing (inanimate): El 1st person plur: 2nd person plur: Delor 3rd person plur: personal: Eor inanimate: Elor What do y'all think? Ilo: sa (=I, Tom, say "yes")
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Creation of the Language / The Lab / Re: A name for the language and other vocabulary.
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on: December 10, 2016, 01:14:18 pm
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Again, we don't have pronunciation yet, but (these are roots, since we have no conjugation):
Word - ber- Earth - terr- Language - Terris (?) Father - pas- Mother - mer- Son - id- Daughter - id-a Food - su-
That seem good?
"YES", but I can only say "yes" in English, until I know what the word for "yes" in Terris is. "Sa" or "Sai" as a combination of Ja and Si? I feel like the "ah" vowel sound most clearly articulates "yes", but I don't know what consonant to put Sa
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Creation of the Language / The Lab / Re: A name for the language and other vocabulary.
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on: December 10, 2016, 01:07:03 pm
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Again, we don't have pronunciation yet, but (these are roots, since we have no conjugation):
Word - ber- Earth - terr- Language - Terris (?) Father - pas- Mother - mer- Son - id- Daughter - id-a Food - su-
That seem good?
"YES", but I can only say "yes" in English, until I know what the word for "yes" in Terris is.
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Creation of the Language / General Discussion / Re: Ideals
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on: December 10, 2016, 12:40:46 pm
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We could have irregular verbs. Like the verb "to be". But the fewer the better, many irregular verbs would be more verb forms to learn and it may be too tedious to learn them all. If there is a lot a vocabulary to learn, making the rest of the language as simple as possible could be a good goal. Many languages are difficult to learn. For example, learning a whole new alphabet. Confusing grammar and idioms. Many dialects, complicated verbs etc. Word order is another question, red apple or apple red? Some languages the verb can go anywhere. In Japanese the verb comes at the end of the sentence. Anway, I like the idea of keeping the alphabet simple and not having letters have too many sounds; English spelling is something to avoid.
Like some languages we could have two different verbs that English translates "to be". Also, some languages have two words for "that" as in that chair where you are vs that chair not near you.
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Creation of the Language / The Lab / Re: Pronouns
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on: December 10, 2016, 12:13:47 pm
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I agree with no formal pronouns. I can call you Mr. Adam or Mr. Timmy if the needs arises. Although it wouldn't be the actual word Mr. So we will need a word for Mr and perhaps a word equivalent to Mam or MS. Whatever the feminine of MR or SIR would be. Some women don't like Mam because it implies an older woman and prefer Miss. One word for that would be enough. A word that implies the feminine of MR or SIR.
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Creation of the Language / The Lab / A name for the language and other vocabulary.
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on: December 10, 2016, 12:01:30 pm
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Does this language have a name yet? If not perhaps something simple, and something that means "planet earth", like Terran or a variation of the letters TRN, those letters in any order with whatever vowels you want to put before and after the second letter. Not important, but it would be nice to have some kind of name for the language.
Suggestions for key words, nouns and verbs?
Another idea for vocabulary, the word "word" and the sentence "How do you say (___) in (whatever the name of our language is)? Like: "How do you say 'word' in XXX?" Or "What is the word for 'dog' in XXX?"
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Off-Topic / Off-Topic / Re: Introduction thread
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on: December 10, 2016, 11:34:57 am
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I made a mistake on my username, but no matter, it was supposed to be CD X 31, not CD X C31, but I am ok with the new equation.
I am 61, and live in a Philly burb.
edit: got it wrong again 3D X 31 not CD X C31
Think I fixed your username Thanks. It is a real equation with a solution, using a base that obviously is not decimal.
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