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« Reply #25 on: December 12, 2016, 06:56:42 pm »

I'm comfortable with having conjugation/declension to be done at the beginning/ends of words.

Some potential nominative forms (again with the same list + a couple more, sorry, I'm boring)


Word - beris
Earth - tarn
Father - pasi
Mother - mera
Son - idu
Daughter - ida
Food - suxa
Hair - seyo
Water - abez
Sand - selez
Dirt - mwelez

The endings are inconsistent, and I'm totally open to feedback and all


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« Reply #26 on: December 13, 2016, 07:57:06 am »

Now that we have some substantial pronunciation, let's get started on vocabulary!

Here's some of the ideas from earlier, in both consonant root form and the other form that they were in before.

Word - ber-/B-R-S
Earth - terr-/T-R-N
Language - Terris (?)
Father - pas-/P-S-M
Mother - mer-/M-R-M or M-S-M
Son - id-/-D-H
Daughter - id-a/-D-AH
Food - su-/S-D-L



proposal:

earth - tarn
of earth / like earth / belonging to earth (?) - tarnuu
our language (nominalised form of that last one) - tarnuun

How would a double u be pronounced?

just longer ([uː])
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« Reply #27 on: December 13, 2016, 08:41:20 am »

i've started a dictionary in google sheets (i'm assuming this is a publicly viewable forum, so pm your email for edit access)

keeping it solely to content words and not functional words for now
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« Reply #28 on: December 13, 2016, 08:21:06 pm »

We have decided on a phonology and an orthography, but what about phonotactics? I think we need to decide what syllable structures are allowed and what sounds are allowed to appear next to each other before we get too carried away with vocabulary.
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« Reply #29 on: December 15, 2016, 05:57:24 am »

We have decided on a phonology and an orthography, but what about phonotactics? I think we need to decide what syllable structures are allowed and what sounds are allowed to appear next to each other before we get too carried away with vocabulary.

Yes, good idea. Do you have any ideas?
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« Reply #30 on: December 15, 2016, 02:42:33 pm »

We have decided on a phonology and an orthography, but what about phonotactics? I think we need to decide what syllable structures are allowed and what sounds are allowed to appear next to each other before we get too carried away with vocabulary.

Yes, good idea. Do you have any ideas?

I can write something up and post it in another thread and see how people like it or want something else. I'll make it so that all words people have come up with are allowed and we don't need to undo anything.
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« Reply #31 on: December 15, 2016, 03:27:15 pm »

We have decided on a phonology and an orthography, but what about phonotactics? I think we need to decide what syllable structures are allowed and what sounds are allowed to appear next to each other before we get too carried away with vocabulary.

Yes, good idea. Do you have any ideas?

I can write something up and post it in another thread and see how people like it or want something else. I'll make it so that all words people have come up with are allowed and we don't need to undo anything.

Please do
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« Reply #32 on: December 15, 2016, 10:42:49 pm »

Random ideas for cardinal numbers:

1. aym
2. wal
3. con
4. vlare
5. gol
6. fwocp
7. yav
8. meqod
9. mirj
10. oj

What kind of number system do we want?
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« Reply #33 on: December 15, 2016, 10:44:35 pm »

Random ideas for cardinal numbers:

1. aym
2. wal
3. con
4. vlare
5. gol
6. fwocp
7. yav
8. meqod
9. mirj
10. oj

What kind of number system do we want?

Roman numerals are not great but something similar
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« Reply #34 on: December 15, 2016, 10:45:25 pm »



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« Reply #35 on: December 15, 2016, 10:47:57 pm »

Random ideas for cardinal numbers:

1. aym
2. wal
3. con
4. vlare
5. gol
6. fwocp
7. yav
8. meqod
9. mirj
10. oj

What kind of number system do we want?

Roman numerals are not great but something similar


I meant, base-10, base-12, base-14? Also, how irregular should the number words be? E.g. Mandarin has very regular numbers--11 is ten-one, 17 is ten-seven, 34 is three-ten-four, etc. English is less regular, and French is even less regular than English.
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« Reply #36 on: December 15, 2016, 11:04:01 pm »

Random ideas for cardinal numbers:

1. aym
2. wal
3. con
4. vlare
5. gol
6. fwocp
7. yav
8. meqod
9. mirj
10. oj

What kind of number system do we want?

Roman numerals are not great but something similar


I meant, base-10, base-12, base-14? Also, how irregular should the number words be? E.g. Mandarin has very regular numbers--11 is ten-one, 17 is ten-seven, 34 is three-ten-four, etc. English is less regular, and French is even less regular than English.

Lol. Base ten is fine. I thing regular numbers with contractions is fine
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« Reply #37 on: December 15, 2016, 11:25:41 pm »

Random ideas for cardinal numbers:

1. aym
2. wal
3. con
4. vlare
5. gol
6. fwocp
7. yav
8. meqod
9. mirj
10. oj

What kind of number system do we want?

Roman numerals are not great but something similar


I meant, base-10, base-12, base-14? Also, how irregular should the number words be? E.g. Mandarin has very regular numbers--11 is ten-one, 17 is ten-seven, 34 is three-ten-four, etc. English is less regular, and French is even less regular than English.

Lol. Base ten is fine. I thing regular numbers with contractions is fine

I like the contractions idea. How about this:

11. jaym
12. jwal
13. jecon
14. jevlare
15. jegol
16. jefwocp
17. jeyav
18. jemeqod
19. jemirj
20. waloj

I'm not absolutely married to those number names though--TBH, they might be a bit heavy on the consonants.
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« Reply #38 on: December 16, 2016, 05:37:34 am »

they might be a bit heavy on the consonants.

Yeah, I think "jefwocp" might be a little much.

How about fwe for 6, and qat for 8?

and thus, "jofwe" (jefwe sounds weird) and "jeqat"
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« Reply #39 on: December 16, 2016, 07:06:58 am »

i rather like the sound of (je)fwocp tbh

and i love base-12 number systems but i can understand why we might avoid that lol
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« Reply #40 on: December 16, 2016, 09:45:03 am »

While I did create the above numbers, I would actually prefer something a little more irregular for the 11-20 numbers.

Also I'm starting to want to keep fwocp actually.
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« Reply #41 on: December 16, 2016, 03:03:49 pm »

My proposal

0. nue
1. aym
2. wal
3. con
4. vlare
5. gol
6. fwocp
7. yav
8. meqod
9. mirj
10. oj
11. jaym
12. jwal
13. jecon
14. jovlare
15. jegol
16. jefwocp
17. jyav
18. jemeqod
19. jemirj
20. walla
21. waym
22. walawal
etc.

30. cone
40. vlaras
50. golla
60. fwoce
70. yavin
80. meqaca
90. mirija
100. ayid
1000. mixa
1000000. mixain

what do you think
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« Reply #42 on: December 16, 2016, 03:30:36 pm »

My proposal

0. nue
1. aym
2. wal
3. con
4. vlare
5. gol
6. fwocp
7. yav
8. meqod
9. mirj
10. oj
11. jaym
12. jwal
13. jecon
14. jovlare
15. jegol
16. jefwocp
17. jyav
18. jemeqod
19. jemirj
20. walla
21. waym
22. walawal
etc.

30. cone
40. vlaras
50. golla
60. fwoce
70. yavin
80. meqaca
90. mirija
100. ayid
1000. mixa
1000000. mixain

what do you think

I like it.  Grin

I'm not sure I understand the "etc." after 22, though, since "waym, walawal" doesn't appear to follow a pattern.
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« Reply #43 on: December 17, 2016, 08:17:37 am »

i've started a dictionary in google sheets (i'm assuming this is a publicly viewable forum, so pm your email for edit access)

keeping it solely to content words and not functional words for now

I've started to update this with full noun forms, FYI
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