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« on: December 10, 2016, 10:56:44 am »

Let's start with some basics - pronouns. What should the structure be? What should they be?

I was thinking

1st person sing
2nd person sing (should there be a formal and informal? i lean toward no)
3rd person sing (three genders + inanimate)
1st person plur
2nd person plur
3rd person plur


That seem good? Anyone have any ideas?
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« Reply #1 on: December 10, 2016, 11:06:08 am »

Keep it simple, use a suffix (other than the letter S) to indicate all plurals. For nouns, pronouns, adjectives, and perhaps even verbs.
For example if to pak is "I am" then tora pakra would mean "We are". ra being the suffix making words plural.
Perhaps the plural of "it" could be "they" if you are going to have three genders in the third person. Adding whatever plural suffix you chose to whatever word you use for "it".
Would it be like Spanish and other languages where the pronoun is not necessary because it can be inferred from the verb?
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« Reply #2 on: December 10, 2016, 11:08:41 am »

Keep it simple, use a suffix (other than the letter S) to indicate all plurals. For nouns, pronouns, adjectives, and perhaps even verbs.
For example if to pak is "I am" then tora pakra would mean "We are". ra being the suffix making words plural.

I like this idea (although not for verbs explicitly)
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« Reply #3 on: December 10, 2016, 11:10:02 am »

Keep it simple, use a suffix (other than the letter S) to indicate all plurals. For nouns, pronouns, adjectives, and perhaps even verbs.
For example if to pak is "I am" then tora pakra would mean "We are". ra being the suffix making words plural.

I like this idea (although not for verbs explicitly)
I  agree with this.
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« Reply #4 on: December 10, 2016, 12:05:36 pm »

I like Tom's idea.
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« Reply #5 on: December 10, 2016, 12:13:47 pm »

I agree with no formal pronouns. I can call you Mr. Adam or Mr. Timmy if the needs arises. Although it wouldn't be the actual word Mr. So we will need a word for Mr and perhaps a word equivalent to Mam or MS. Whatever the feminine of MR or SIR would be. Some women don't like Mam because it implies an older woman and prefer Miss. One word for that would be enough. A word that implies the feminine of MR or SIR.
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« Reply #6 on: December 10, 2016, 01:07:45 pm »

Here's a draft

1st person sing: Jo
2nd person sing: De
3rd Person Sing: Ed Ea Et
3rd person sing (inanimate): El

1st person plur: Ilor
2nd person plur: Delor
3rd person plur: personal: Eor inanimate: Elor

What do y'all think?
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« Reply #7 on: December 10, 2016, 01:18:39 pm »

Here's a draft

1st person sing: Ilo (? - Don't really like this one)
2nd person sing: De
3rd Person Sing: Ed Ea Et
3rd person sing (inanimate): El

1st person plur: Huh
2nd person plur: Delor
3rd person plur: personal: Eor inanimate: Elor

What do y'all think?
Ilo: sa (=I, Tom, say "yes")
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« Reply #8 on: December 10, 2016, 01:36:29 pm »

If you want to use "ilo" for "I", I suggest "ilor" for "we". (or something similar containing "ilor").
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« Reply #9 on: December 10, 2016, 01:37:15 pm »

If you want to use "ilo" for "I", I suggest "ilor" for "we". (or something similar containing "ilor").

Sounds good to me
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« Reply #10 on: December 12, 2016, 02:18:30 pm »

I'll propose alternatives.

1st person sing - Jo
1st person plur - Josu
3rd person plur - Edor, Ear, Etor
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« Reply #11 on: December 12, 2016, 06:57:43 pm »

I'll propose alternatives.

1st person sing - Jo
1st person plur - Josu
3rd person plur - Edor, Ear, Etor

I've adopted Jo, but am keeping Ilor and the all-encompassing, personal, third person plural
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« Reply #12 on: December 13, 2016, 08:48:29 pm »

What if you want to refer to a group that includes both people and inanimate objects? E.g. "Even though they are very far apart, Bob and the planet Neptune have a lot in common."

I would use the personal one for that (eor) but it's an interesting question.

Anyway, I like the pronouns as they currently are in the draft post.
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