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« on: December 10, 2016, 12:01:30 pm » |
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Does this language have a name yet? If not perhaps something simple, and something that means "planet earth", like Terran or a variation of the letters TRN, those letters in any order with whatever vowels you want to put before and after the second letter. Not important, but it would be nice to have some kind of name for the language.
Suggestions for key words, nouns and verbs?
Another idea for vocabulary, the word "word" and the sentence "How do you say (___) in (whatever the name of our language is)? Like: "How do you say 'word' in XXX?" Or "What is the word for 'dog' in XXX?"
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« Reply #1 on: December 10, 2016, 12:12:11 pm » |
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Something like Tieran, Teren, Terna, or Tereni might work
I'll work on more ideas once I'm back at a computer
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« Reply #2 on: December 10, 2016, 01:02:28 pm » |
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Again, we don't have pronunciation yet, but (these are roots, since we have no conjugation):
Word - ber- Earth - terr- Language - Terris (?) Father - pas- Mother - mer- Son - id- Daughter - id-a Food - su-
That seem good?
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« Reply #3 on: December 10, 2016, 01:07:03 pm » |
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Again, we don't have pronunciation yet, but (these are roots, since we have no conjugation):
Word - ber- Earth - terr- Language - Terris (?) Father - pas- Mother - mer- Son - id- Daughter - id-a Food - su-
That seem good?
"YES", but I can only say "yes" in English, until I know what the word for "yes" in Terris is.
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« Reply #4 on: December 10, 2016, 01:09:53 pm » |
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Again, we don't have pronunciation yet, but (these are roots, since we have no conjugation):
Word - ber- Earth - terr- Language - Terris (?) Father - pas- Mother - mer- Son - id- Daughter - id-a Food - su-
That seem good?
"YES", but I can only say "yes" in English, until I know what the word for "yes" in Terris is. "Sa" or "Sai" as a combination of Ja and Si? I feel like the "ah" vowel sound most clearly articulates "yes", but I don't know what consonant to put
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« Reply #5 on: December 10, 2016, 01:14:18 pm » |
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Again, we don't have pronunciation yet, but (these are roots, since we have no conjugation):
Word - ber- Earth - terr- Language - Terris (?) Father - pas- Mother - mer- Son - id- Daughter - id-a Food - su-
That seem good?
"YES", but I can only say "yes" in English, until I know what the word for "yes" in Terris is. "Sa" or "Sai" as a combination of Ja and Si? I feel like the "ah" vowel sound most clearly articulates "yes", but I don't know what consonant to put Sa
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« Reply #6 on: December 10, 2016, 03:40:42 pm » |
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Does this language have a name yet? If not perhaps something simple, and something that means "planet earth", like Terran or a variation of the letters TRN, those letters in any order with whatever vowels you want to put before and after the second letter. Not important, but it would be nice to have some kind of name for the language.
what if we have consonantal roots, like in the semitic languages? e.g. TaRN = earth (n.) TaRaNa = to land (infinitive) maTRaN = landing (n.) and so on
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« Reply #7 on: December 10, 2016, 04:24:33 pm » |
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Does this language have a name yet? If not perhaps something simple, and something that means "planet earth", like Terran or a variation of the letters TRN, those letters in any order with whatever vowels you want to put before and after the second letter. Not important, but it would be nice to have some kind of name for the language.
what if we have consonantal roots, like in the semitic languages? e.g. TaRN = earth (n.) TaRaNa = to land (infinitive) maTRaN = landing (n.) and so on I like this idea, actually. It does make it more challenging to both learn and notate, but there are other advantages
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« Reply #8 on: December 12, 2016, 06:21:40 am » |
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Now that we have some substantial pronunciation, let's get started on vocabulary!
Here's some of the ideas from earlier, in both consonant root form and the other form that they were in before.
Word - ber-/B-R-S Earth - terr-/T-R-N Language - Terris (?) Father - pas-/P-S-M Mother - mer-/M-R-M or M-S-M Son - id-/-D-H Daughter - id-a/-D-AH Food - su-/S-D-L
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« Reply #9 on: December 12, 2016, 07:44:21 am » |
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Soon we will be able to make sentences. We have the word for "mother". To say "My mother is nice" we need three more words. Certainly the verb "to be" is one of the most important verbs. "My" will be easy to create since we have the word for "I". Maybe add a suffix to "ilor". "Ilorka"?
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« Reply #10 on: December 12, 2016, 07:46:57 am » |
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So, is "Terris" the Terris word for Terris? Because if so, I'm not sure how the double r is supposed to be pronounced.
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« Reply #11 on: December 12, 2016, 07:51:04 am » |
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Here are some critical words for our vocabulary: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Most_common_words_in_EnglishThey need to be put into alphabetical order. If nobody else does this, I will make a point of putting them in order when I get a chance, if you think that that would be useful. Perhaps I could also come up with a few random words in Terris and someone could decide which English words to equate them with. As an example the Terris word "sogo" means... ____? edit: I propose "sogo" = "jelly".
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« Reply #12 on: December 12, 2016, 08:42:49 am » |
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So, is "Terris" the Terris word for Terris? Because if so, I'm not sure how the double r is supposed to be pronounced.
Double r is like a single r, I just think it looks nicer. I assume it's a rolled r, although the single r isn't defined as anything
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« Reply #13 on: December 12, 2016, 08:43:30 am » |
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Here are some critical words for our vocabulary: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Most_common_words_in_EnglishThey need to be put into alphabetical order. If nobody else does this, I will make a point of putting them in order when I get a chance, if you think that that would be useful. Perhaps I could also come up with a few random words in Terris and someone could decide which English words to equate them with. As an example the Terris word "sogo" means... ____? edit: I propose "sogo" = "jelly". I'd appreciate if you could do that I do like sogo as jelly, actually
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« Reply #14 on: December 12, 2016, 09:11:14 am » |
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a about after all also an and any as at back be because but by can come could day do even first for from get give go good have he her him his how
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« Reply #15 on: December 12, 2016, 09:12:08 am » |
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Here are some critical words for our vocabulary: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Most_common_words_in_EnglishThey need to be put into alphabetical order. If nobody else does this, I will make a point of putting them in order when I get a chance, if you think that that would be useful. Perhaps I could also come up with a few random words in Terris and someone could decide which English words to equate them with. As an example the Terris word "sogo" means... ____? edit: I propose "sogo" = "jelly". I'd appreciate if you could do that I do like sogo as jelly, actually I adding jelly making 101 words. I am putting it in three posts rather than one, because of the length.
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« Reply #16 on: December 12, 2016, 09:13:02 am » |
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I if in into it its jelly just know like look make me most my new no not now of on one only or other our out over people say see she so some
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« Reply #17 on: December 12, 2016, 09:13:48 am » |
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take than that the their them then there these they think this time to two up us use want way we well what when which who will with work would year you your
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« Reply #18 on: December 12, 2016, 10:30:55 am » |
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Now that we have some substantial pronunciation, let's get started on vocabulary!
Here's some of the ideas from earlier, in both consonant root form and the other form that they were in before.
Word - ber-/B-R-S Earth - terr-/T-R-N Language - Terris (?) Father - pas-/P-S-M Mother - mer-/M-R-M or M-S-M Son - id-/-D-H Daughter - id-a/-D-AH Food - su-/S-D-L
proposal: earth - tarn of earth / like earth / belonging to earth (?) - tarnuu our language (nominalised form of that last one) - tarnuun
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« Reply #19 on: December 12, 2016, 10:33:38 am » |
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Here are some critical words for our vocabulary: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Most_common_words_in_EnglishThey need to be put into alphabetical order. If nobody else does this, I will make a point of putting them in order when I get a chance, if you think that that would be useful. Perhaps I could also come up with a few random words in Terris and someone could decide which English words to equate them with. As an example the Terris word "sogo" means... ____? edit: I propose "sogo" = "jelly". a lot of these can (don't have to, but can) be grammatical inflections rather than standalone words i'd start with this list instead: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swadesh_list
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« Reply #21 on: December 12, 2016, 11:47:55 am » |
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Another idea have a suffix for opposites? This would cut the number of words substantially. Hot & Cold. Young & Old. etc I don't know if it's a good idea, but it could simplify things and make it easier to learn the language more quickly.
Or a prefix nonhot=cold nonold=young or unhot instead of nonhot etc etc Then there would be halfhot for lukewarm. Maybe zerohot for cold? zero-old or little-old for young.
Has this been tried in any Conlangs before?
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« Reply #22 on: December 12, 2016, 11:51:43 am » |
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Another idea have a suffix for opposites? This would cut the number of words substantially. Hot & Cold. Young & Old. etc I don't know if it's a good idea, but it could simplify things and make it easier to learn the language more quickly.
Or a prefix nonhot=cold nonold=young or unhot instead of nonhot etc etc Then there would be halfhot for lukewarm. Maybe zerohot for cold? zero-old or little-old for young.
Has this been tried in any Conlangs before?
If you are speaking another language to someone who doesn't at the same time speak English, you can't say "How do you say 'cold'"? Because that person wouldn't know the meaning of "cold". But, if you remember the word for hot, you could say "what is the opposite of hot?". My point is, that maybe the idea of simplifying the language with adding an "opposite of" suffix may be unnecessary and therefore a bad idea. I have a tendency, perhaps an irritating one, of "thinking out loud".
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« Reply #23 on: December 12, 2016, 12:47:16 pm » |
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it's a good idea to have such an inflection, but i would prefer to not use it exclusively (still have separate roots for e.g. "hot" and "cold")
otherwise you have less room for nuance
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« Reply #24 on: December 12, 2016, 06:35:40 pm » |
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Now that we have some substantial pronunciation, let's get started on vocabulary!
Here's some of the ideas from earlier, in both consonant root form and the other form that they were in before.
Word - ber-/B-R-S Earth - terr-/T-R-N Language - Terris (?) Father - pas-/P-S-M Mother - mer-/M-R-M or M-S-M Son - id-/-D-H Daughter - id-a/-D-AH Food - su-/S-D-L
proposal: earth - tarn of earth / like earth / belonging to earth (?) - tarnuu our language (nominalised form of that last one) - tarnuun How would a double u be pronounced? Another idea have a suffix for opposites? This would cut the number of words substantially. Hot & Cold. Young & Old. etc I don't know if it's a good idea, but it could simplify things and make it easier to learn the language more quickly.
Or a prefix nonhot=cold nonold=young or unhot instead of nonhot etc etc Then there would be halfhot for lukewarm. Maybe zerohot for cold? zero-old or little-old for young.
Has this been tried in any Conlangs before?
If you are speaking another language to someone who doesn't at the same time speak English, you can't say "How do you say 'cold'"? Because that person wouldn't know the meaning of "cold". But, if you remember the word for hot, you could say "what is the opposite of hot?". My point is, that maybe the idea of simplifying the language with adding an "opposite of" suffix may be unnecessary and therefore a bad idea. I have a tendency, perhaps an irritating one, of "thinking out loud". As evergreen said, I like this as a thing to add variance, but not as a standard practice.
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